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It's up to you so choose it. You see which way to go. How good of a person are you? Is it the high road or the low? You're faced with many options that only you can choose. Rondo choose to be the better person.But Ray Allen has turned out to be that dirty politician that we all hate.
Your so-called friends may guide you down a dark and narrow street. Ray was once a friend, but his ego is greater than we have known from his nice guy act. Ray's making decisions to speak out about Rondo, and the Celtics as a team. Please take this free advice Ray. Just leave the Celtics alone. Were done with you. I've been leaving the Ray stories off this blog, but I can't let this one go. Ray had this to say about a trade that almost went down.
Former Boston Celtics player Ray Allen spoke with the Miami Herald today, and revealed the details of a failed trade in 2009 that would have changed everything.
According to Allen, Celtics GM Danny Ainge proposed a trade in 2009 that would have sent Ray Allen and Rajon Rondo to the Phoenix Suns in exchange for Amar'e Stoudemire, Leandro Barbosa, and the 14th-overall pick.
Allen said that, at the time, Ainge and Rivers “didn’t get along” with Rondo.
“So, I called him and I told him, ‘hey they’re supposedly trading us to Phoenix because you and Danny and Doc don’t get along,’ ” Allen said. “ ‘So, whatever you can do.’
“So, for some reason, I guess he thought that I was … that I had something against him, or there were some issues. And I had no issues with him. I won with him.”
What the hell Ray, how selfish are you? Let Rondo be himself, and go to your corner, or be a good teammate. Thankfully Rondo didn't listen to Ray, and he became the All-Star he is today. Rondo on his own terms built a solid relationship with Doc, and Danny. Ray's been in the news all week. For his struggles in Miami so far, and for his call out on Doc not allowing him to post up.
Ray Allen set on contributing in areas beyond 3-point line
"One of the areas the Heat could possibly use Allen is in the post. It was a big part of his game during the early portion of his career before he became identified mostly as a jump-shooter. Allen said he often pleaded with Celtics coach Doc Rivers to play more in the post, but it was not part of the plans.
“In practice, I always posted up,” Allen said. “I just could never convince my coach to allow me go down in the post. He was always telling me he wanted different matchups. I’ve had so many matchups in the post throughout the years. It gives me a different scoring angle. It takes pressure off having always to shoot 3s.”
Playing in the post would force teams to rethink their strategies of defending Allen. Opponents generally place a smaller defender on Allen because his tendency to run off screens and tire bigger players. The presence of a post game all but eliminates the possibility.
“What teams try to do is when they want a guy to chase me they bring a small guy that’s quick,” Allen said. “So you roll to your next stunt and you post them and get them out of the game. The way we play here just creates so many different opportunities. You put the other team in so many complicated situations that it forces their defenses to play more uncomfortable.”
Ray did post up before he arrived in Boston, but at this age Ray won't be effective. If my memory serves me right. When Ray tried to post up in Boston it was an epic fail. He takes a stab at Doc, and he's got no shame anymore.
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With every word Allen says, it seems more clear that he was so jealous of Rondo that he could hardly stand it. iI's also clear that the near worship he received in the local media as the 'classy' guy on the Celtics was as valid as most media reporting is. Take whatever the media tell you, reverse it, and you might be a lot closer to the truth.
I don't think that everything Ray is saying is wrong in and of itself. I think it's true that Doc is too averse to post-up play. Most coaches are these days, really. The Celtics remain far too content to shoot Js all night long. And when they do go at the post, they rarely pass out of it successfully it seems to me. That's almost worse than not going into the post at all. When used the way it should be, attacking the post is simply a way of breaking the defense down. The goal isn't always to score. Often the pass out of the post is as important as the pass in.
I think Ray also has a point about Danny. On one hand, Danny has made some brilliant trades, and it's understandable that he would always be considering them. I certainly hope that he spends a lot of time trying to dream up deals for Josh Smith! But the atmosphere of uncertainty that he has created and fed around the Celtics has caused a lot of problems. You cannot ask for loyalty if you don't give loyalty. As in all things, the key is balance, Danny.
Fans need to think about this too. How often do we see fans refer to players as "pieces", or as "chips",etc.? If we choose to dehumanize players this way, how can we expect them to be loyal to the fans? It's only fairness for them to dehumanize us too.
But really, Ray. Shut up. Say it on the court in ten days.
paul says...
In other words, Ray was mad that the offense which was crafted around him wasn't even more crafted around him. And Ray, you might be delusional if you really think that the Miami Heat are going to craft their offense around you. The rest of the league would probably applaud that decision, if they did.
With every word Allen says, it seems more clear that he was so jealous of Rondo that he could hardly stand it. iI's also clear that the near worship he received in the local media as the 'classy' guy on the Celtics was as valid as most media reporting is. Take whatever the media tell you, reverse it, and you might be a lot closer to the truth.
I don't think that everything Ray is saying is wrong in and of itself. I think it's true that Doc is too averse to post-up play. Most coaches are these days, really. The Celtics remain far too content to shoot Js all night long. And when they do go at the post, they rarely pass out of it successfully it seems to me. That's almost worse than not going into the post at all. When used the way it should be, attacking the post is simply a way of breaking the defense down. The goal isn't always to score. Often the pass out of the post is as important as the pass in.
I think Ray also has a point about Danny. On one hand, Danny has made some brilliant trades, and it's understandable that he would always be considering them. I certainly hope that he spends a lot of time trying to dream up deals for Josh Smith! But the atmosphere of uncertainty that he has created and fed around the Celtics has caused a lot of problems. You cannot ask for loyalty if you don't give loyalty. As in all things, the key is balance, Danny.
Fans need to think about this too. How often do we see fans refer to players as "pieces", or as "chips",etc.? If we choose to dehumanize players this way, how can we expect them to be loyal to the fans? It's only fairness for them to dehumanize us too.
But really, Ray. Shut up. Say it on the court in ten days.
I agree with you with the pieces part. I think it really dehumanize player and I find it really sad.
I would hate to be just a "piece". If someone came to me just before a game and tell me "you're not playing tonight because we just traded you", it would break my heart.
About Ray, I honestly don't understand why he just keeps talking about Rondo.
When he said "?[If Rondo] had issue with me, that?s on him." I just though "is he drunk?"
Rondo already said he has no issues with Allen, so Ray should have just shut up.
Greg says...
I agree with u Paul,and Shawn as well. About the pieces part Paul. I agree also,but the players call them selfs that as well. I think its a term that's just used now.
I know it's used more and more. Language can contain a lot of harm, especially the language we get used to using sometimes.
Morena says...
I agree with you with the pieces part. I think it really dehumanize player and I find it really sad.
I would hate to be just a "piece". If someone came to me just before a game and tell me "you're not playing tonight because we just traded you", it would break my heart.
About Ray, I honestly don't understand why he just keeps talking about Rondo.
When he said "?[If Rondo] had issue with me, that?s on him." I just though "is he drunk?"
Rondo already said he has no issues with Allen, so Ray should have just shut up.
I love what you say. "Is he drunk"? Yeah, it really seems that way, doesn't it? Like he is drunk with vindictive anger.
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